We respectfully request that this information be Required Reading for Homeowners, Business
owners, Builders and Subcontractor for the concrete slabs we are asked to stain.
Concrete Stained Floor Requirements
1.
The finished outcome of a concrete stained floor or concrete overlay floor is directly the
result of the care and responsibility taken by the builder and subcontractor that work on the slab before the
arrival of the concrete straining crews. As our crews cannot be onsite to ensure the care of the concrete
floor it should be covered during the entire construction process.
We recommend that the slab not be covered with plastic after the pour is made as
this will leave some very interesting marks in the
slab that are not very appealing (or maybe they are). Masonite or plywood can be used until the slab is
“dried in” and then two layers of roofing (heavy gauge rosin paper) paper can be used for the duration of the
construction process provided that the subcontractors are all informed not to spill adhesives, paints,
solvents, oils, varnishes or stains on the slab. Ha-Ha, what a joke cover the floor thoroughly, nobody
cares
about your floor except you, trust me.
A. If
this is new construction here are the instructions for the concrete to be poured:
1. A quality batch of concrete should consist of at least a 5 sack mix with no fly
ash, retarders or chloride accelerators. The slab should be lightly power troweled to give a slick finish
without creating too many “burns” in the concrete surface. This will give you a beautiful look and at the
same time ensure that the concrete is readily stainable. The concrete should be wet cured using curing
blankets for at least 7 days while keeping the concrete at all times wet during those 7days. ABSOLUTELY NO
CURING COMPOUNDS ARE TO BE USED! The use of curing compounds will result in a slab that is either impossible
or very difficult to stain and will be a very large additional cost to remove.
The
paper should be taped together and the tape should not be applied to the
concrete floor for any reason. This will act as a barrier (stain resist) to the stain when applied.The mistaken spilling of the contaminants will just add to the cost
of the staining process because these are very hard if not impossible to remove and are not very attractive if
exposed during the staining process.
The concrete floors are to be clean swept and removed of all building materials,
furniture, equipment, and fixtures and the paper covering the floor. Our fees do not include the removal of
these items and fees will be assessed for us to remove them. Sorry our insurance does not cover these
items.
2.
If the above listed procedures are not adhered to the stains, chips in the concrete floor and
imperfections will all be readily apparent but fear not sometimes but not always these all add character to
the slab and of course we are after an aged mottled “old world” look so this may just add to the
character.
3.
That being said the Owners, Builders, and subcontractors are solely responsible for the
condition of the concrete floor prior to our crews commencing work. No liability is accepted or implied on
our part for the condition of the floor. We insist that all parties listed above take responsibility for the
floor prior to our arrival. A copy of these instructions should be given to the GC and all the subs and make
them sign off on having received them. That way when you back charge them for possible additional charges
from us or other contractors they can’t say “We didn’t know”.
4.
We use extended release tapes and plastics to mask the baseboards and the walls. We do not however accept responsibility for paint peel off during the removal
of the plastic and tape at the end of the process. Staining is an extremely wet process and as such water and
stained water can make their way under tape and onto baseboards and trim. Builder’s grade paint is very
often what we would consider below grade and often does not stand up to these conditions.
5.
Anything that will not allow the stain to come in contact with the concrete surface is what we
refer to as a “resist”. All glues, adhesives, pipe dope, sealers including curing agents etc. fall into this
category. For instance your painter has taped his plastic or drop cloth to the floor and when pulls up the
tape it leaves behind an adhesive residue, Yes I am repeating
myself it is that important. This will cause the stain to show the tape spot on the floor and take the
stain differently in that area.
6.
If your plumber puts in a sprinkler system or regular plumbing and drips pipe dope on the
floor you will see those spots as well. If the painter doesn’t cover the floor well and the overspray of the
paint gets on the floor it may show as well even though it appears all the paint has been
removed.
If you are going to cover your floors with paper make sure to use at least builder’s
grade paper and at best rosin paper that can be found in the roofing dept. Tape the paper to itself and DO
NOT TAPE IT TO THE FLOOR (repeating again). Overlap the paper
approximately 4 inches and that should give you good coverage. Most large rolls of paper come with about 432
sq. ft. of coverage with overlap you can figure around 350-375 sq. ft. coverage per roll. I would also
recommend you place cardboard or Masonite on top of the paper. Do not use plastic as this will not let the
concrete “breath”.
If you want a beautiful concrete floor this is a small expense to consider when you
live with these beautiful floors for at least a few years. Take the time to do this step and it will pay
dividends beyond the small amount of time and money it takes to do it.
7.
Heavy furniture can scratch the surface especially if you might have nails where your pads
might have previously been located on the bottom of the legs so be sure to check. We recommend felt pads,
magic movers or similar items which are durable and relatively inexpensive.
8.
Your concrete stained floor needs to be vacuumed or dust mopped periodically and an occasional
damp mop using a neutral cleaner which can be purchased at Home Depot. That is all that is required to
maintain your floor. You will need to apply a floor finish 1-2 times a year which will take 15 minutes and 30
minutes to dry. Compare that to 4-6 times a year to clean your carpet. A Swiffer works
great!
9.
The staining process requires running water, preferably an outside faucet and two 110 volt
outlets. The electrical outlets need to be within 200 ft. of the furthest point of the slab where we will be
staining.
10. Our prices are based
the actual square footage of the building. Just as an architect, designer or appraiser would measure, wall to
wall, that is how we measure. Why do we measure this way, in short we have to tape off all the walls within that
area and that is a lot of extra work.
11. Our prices do not
include excessive cleaning of the concrete floor, protective covering of the slab upon completion, post
construction cleaning or any other service not listed on our Estimate/Proposal. We do everything in our power to
create beautiful and cost-effective floors and a little assistance from yourself and the GC goes a long
way.
12. We fully expect to
have to do a little touch-up here and there. We will schedule that upon completion. There is no charge for minor
touchups but there will be a charge if there are areas that we have to totally redo due to abuse from other
contractors.
13. For floors that have
been completed in an overlay all of the above conditions apply. In addition an extra day or two should be given
before heavy traffic is allowed on the floor.
14. Scheduling is
critical to our performance and the outcome of your project. Please contact us 3-4 weeks in advance in the fall
and winter and 5-6 weeks in advance during the spring and summer. We want to make sure that we have enough time
to give your project the attention it deserves so we ask to be notified well in advance of your
project.
We realize that project scheduling changes as projects changes, especially with
commercial projects, we just want to be kept in the loop so we can make sure we have an adequate amount of
time to complete your project as well as our other clients.
15. After completion and
inspection of the concrete stained floor it is the responsibility of the homeowner, business owner, general
contractor and/or builder to protect the stained concrete or concrete overlay floor.
16. Concrete acid stains
and pigmented stains react chemically with the free lime in the concrete or overlay. Concrete acid stain color
charts will show what the typical concrete slab or concrete overlay will render but due to the differences in
concrete slabs from company to company and area of the country, concrete slab colors may vary. This is why it is
best to do a sample on the concrete slab itself.
It is a little different with a concrete overlay. You first of all with get a more
consistent color and this color will be more vivid and in most cases more dramatic. This is because the mix
is consistent and we are using white Portland cement in the mix as opposed to grey Portland cement in normal
concrete.
17. These are a few
contractor mistakes that we cannot remedy in most cases so be sure to make all of your contractors are aware of
these conditions.
· Contractors normally use Sharpies or Marks-a-Lot permanent ink markers - These are an ABSOLUTE
NO-NO!!!
· Electricians normally use spray paint to mark areas where outlets will go-this paint does not come easily or
sometimes at all
· Sheetrock and drywall contractor are notorious for making the biggest mess and for some unknown reason they
expect everyone else to clean up after them-WE WON’T so get them to cover your floors
· Painters are kind of like drywallers they spray their paint pretty much wherever they want and when they
roll they’re not much better, you need to tell them to cover the floor or they won’t. If they are spraying the
cabinets with urethane or varnish it will get on the floor also - Again ask them to cover up the
floor.
· Carpenters like to use red caulk for their caulk lines- ask them to use orange
· Plumbers that are installing sprinkler system in commercial spaces will use oil to cut the pipes and when
they install them they drip that oily water on the concrete which will leave a stain, they’ll tell you it won’t
but trust me it will. Also the pipe solvent they use is clear and won’t show until the floor is stained and then
there is nothing that can be done about it.
· Concrete contractors use curing agents on the concrete to hold in moisture during the hydration
process(curing process) these curing agents block the stain’s penetration into the concrete- WET CURE THE
CONCRETE - DO NOT USE CURING AGENTS
18.Remodeling Projects- Many folks want to rip up their carpets and tile and
linoleum and think they can just stain the concrete-It’s just not that easy. Under your carpet, tile or what
ever are a bunch of potential problems that just might not let you stain the concrete. This is sometimes when an
overlay might be the answer to the question.
A. Carpet or Tile- When removing you can be face with two possible problems
1.
Tacks strips are sometimes used to hold down your carpet in this case when you pull up the
tack strip you will create holes in the concrete because the tack strips are nailed into the concrete and
they always pull up a little concrete when you rip them out.
2.
Carpet adhesive may have been used on the floor for your carpet or the padding or
indoor-outdoor carpet which was very popular in the past. In the case of concrete staining all of this
material will need to be removed. We manufacture a carpet adhesive remover called Glu-B-Gone which works
extremely well for this situation. A razor scraper in 4” or 8” will come in handy for this
situation.
Even in the case of great adhesive removal you may be left with a bit of residue in
the pores of the concrete. This may not be visible until you stain the concrete floors. You just need to be
aware of this condition when you make your decision between stained concrete floors and stained concrete
overlays.
3. VCT tile glue can be dealt
with in the manner described above for
carpet adhesive removal. You may need to use a
different adhesive
4.
Porcelain or ceramic tile is a whole different ball game. When you remove the tile you are
left with the grid marks of the tile where it has stained the concrete. It other words the grout for the tile
has allowed all the materials that stained it through to the concrete. You are left with a surface that can
be “stained” but you will see the grid on the concrete. There are specific faux techniques to take your eye
away from the grid, but the marks will remain. To date we have never found any cleaning agent that would
completely remove the grid. Our Super Blue (mild acidic detergent) can sometimes remove up to 75% of the
grid but not always.
In this case a concrete overlay is a great alternative to concrete staining. You can
create any look you want and contrary to what many “concrete stainers” say overlays can be troweled just as
smooth as concrete and will allow for the “aged marble effect” you may be looking for. You can even get a textured concrete floor with an overlay which you cannot
do with concrete.
5.
Older Concrete Floors- Many warehouses that have been converted to lofts and many old
residences have concrete that is 30-40-50 years and older. The concrete may have lost a lot of the free lime
from the surface (which is what the metal salts in the stain react with) and may not be a good candidate for
concrete floor staining.
While tests can be done on the concrete to determine the viability of staining
for that surface many times an overlay can be used in this situation. If you are bound and determined to stain
the concrete you have there are products such Scofield’s “Enhancer” which can add some of the ingredients
necessary to stain back into the concrete. This can work on some concrete slabs but not all.
6.
Paint Overspray- While this is definitely a project stopper in the case of a stained concrete
floor, the project can be saved when using and overlay. You will of course need to remove all the paint and
we will use a liquid polymer on the concrete to ensure adhesion.
7.
Exteriors- Concrete that has been poured at different times can render different hues of stain
color even when sprayed at the same times. This is because concrete coming from different companies has
different ingredients such as the amount of fly ash dissimilar brands of Portland cement and so forth. You
can even have different ingredients coming from the same company at different times of the
year.
We hope this “Required Reading” has given you some insights into the possibilities
and even some of the limitations of concrete floor staining and the advantages of concrete overlay when
concrete staining is not the right fit. Yes I do realize that I have repeated myself about several things
within this document, they are that important to the success of your project.
You can still have your stained floors in the case of concrete overlays but there
are several surprising things you will find with concrete overlay floors; the floors are warmer on your feet
than tile, you will get brighter and more vivid colors with the overlay, you can have textured floors which
resemble stone or marble, are much less expensive and require a heck of a lot less maintenance than real
marble.
If you have any further questions email us
at condes@bellsouth.net or
call us at 770-616-7093
Thanks for your time and we look forward to assisting you with your uniquely
artistic concrete flooring solution.
John K. Groom
Managing Partner
Concrete Designs & Resurfacing LLC
Creator of the Artistic Décor Systems & Eco-Polish System
Don't Believe
Us- Here's What our Clients Have to
Say:
Mr.
Groom,
At the risk of sounding like your other testimonials…(I’m willing to risk it!)
…Thank you for your assistance with my floors.
Your products were easy to use, the assistance you provided by being available
was so helpful. I admit that that, initially, I was skeptical about whether you would answer and assist they
way you promised….AND YOU DID! You always returned my calls/emails promptly and you were very patient and
helpful during the process.
The products were safe and easy to use. Frankly, the most difficult part of the
process was (and you’ve said it) the prep work.
My floors were 40+years old. So there was a lot of dirt, paint, etc build-up on
the floors. I didn’t use your floor cleaner…That’s probably where I went wrong and why the prep work was so
difficult. Lesson learned!
I am very pleased with the finished product. A friend and I were both working on
our basement floors (both are concrete). He opted for the 2 part HD epoxy system. After seeing my floor he
wishes that he had stained his floor.
Very Grateful.
S. Earl Williams, CFP®
OK...just had to tell you how
pleased I am with my floor. I stained my walk in closet to practice. I plan to take the same color into my bathroom
and bedroom.
Next year...I'm going to my living areas and hallways...I am so excited.
Your instructions and products are top notch. I followed your instructions and spent
the necessary time on the prep work. Once it was time to stain, seal, and use floor finish...felt so easy. My
friends (the close ones that is...not everybody gets to see my closet) love the finished product.
I just ordered additional stain and sealer to make sure I have enough for my bath and
bedroom. I look forward to finishiing my project before the holidays.
Thank you for your superior service and your superior products!
Julie
King
Ft. Worth,
Tx.
I
just wanted thank you for all your help and tell you thank you. I was amazed that you actually did answer my calls
and emails promptly. Thanks again.
R.
Fallows
Tempe, Az.
John
Wow this process really wasn't that hard at all and I can now understand why you say the cleaning
process is really the most important process. The floor looks fabulous and I am recommending you to all my friends.
It's nice to find someone that actually helps you after the sale I really appreciate all your
help.
T.
Chantal
Worthington, Oh.
Hey John, thanks again for taking the time to speak with me and help guide me in the right
direction! I'm really itching to get started on this project.
Nicky Waters
Las Vegas, NV.
Your little tips on how to Faux Paint the imperfections along the edges were a real help to us.
Thanks so much.
R
Little
Grand Prairie, TX.
Thanks so much for all your help
during our project. I know we could have done it without you but it made it much easier for you to answer all our
questions. I will recommend you highly to all me friends and family. The floors look awesome. Thanks
again.
M.
Sidelain
Omaha,
Neb
I can't thank you enough for all
the help you gave me with my project, thanks alot.
Ken
Owens
Wise,
Va.
Wow is all I can say, the floor
looks like a beautiful leather floor. We are so pleased with the outcome, thanks so much.
Susan
DiMascio
Career Solutions
International
Sanford,
Fl.
You did a Great Job! Everyone
loves these floors (us included). Send everyone by to take a look.
Jill Blackstock -
Owner
Tropical Smoothie Cafe - Rock
Quarry Rd.
Stockbridge
Ga.
I just wanted to let you know
that your site was very informative and really helped me with my decision to acid stain my basement on my
own.
Jan
Hunt
Yes I need another can of WB Sealer. Thanks so much for the great customer
support!